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chief science correspondent bob bazell joins me to talk about whether or not we should be concerned. will the tea party force a government shutdown? i'll talk with one democratic congressman who says, speaker boehner has been captured by the tea party. plus -- gut check. why one ohio town wants to take the easter out of its easter egg hunt. i'm tamron hall. the "news nation" is following major developments concerning libya. as rebel fighters lose more ground to moammar gadhafi's forces, nbc news has learned president obama has authorizes covert action in libya, including a man to arm the rebels. the white house says the president has not decided whether to go through with with the plan. the cia has had operatives on the ground in libya for weeks now. they've been gathering information on the rebels. also helped rescue a crew member of the u.s. fighter that crashed in libya. defense secretary gates
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testified at a congressional hearing. gates said he does not think the u.s. should arm those rebels. >> in terms of providing that training, in terms of providing assistance to them, frankly there are many countries that can do that. that's not a unique capability for the united states. and as far as i'm concerned, somebody else should do that. >> libya's foreign minister has defected to britain. musa kusa one of gadhafi's closest aides. he is suspects of masterminding the bombing of pan am flight 103 that killed 270 people. nbc news pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski joins me now. nato officially took control of the entire military mission in libya but the headline is about the cia operatives on the ground and what they are doing there. what can you tell juice u.s. military and intelligence officials say if they didn't, if the obama administration did not have cia operatives on the
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ground, this operation was not well thought out and would be in trouble. this is pretty much preforma in this operation. in that finding the president signed was to have another tool in the chest, if in fact he decides to go ahead and arm the rebels. but as we heard from secretary of defense gates, in front of the house armed services committee this morning, he prefer that other nations do it. and he also expressed one of the very complicated factors in not arming the rebels, the fact that even though he told lawmakers this morning that the u.s. is acquainted with the handful of these rebel opposition leaders, in terms of the opposition and the rebels themselves, the u.s. really has no clue who they are and they're so despir rate and have different agendas from city to city, tribe to tribe, it's difficult for the u.s. to get their arms around any cohesive
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opposition force. >> thank you, jim miklaszewski, live at the pentagon. joining me now, former cia officer, jamie smith, just returned from libya yesterday. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> let's talk about the cia and the role there. it said their precise role in libya is not clear. what do you make of the information we've been able to obtain so far? >> the central intelligence agency's tasked with gathering information. and if you look at -- you liken the mission that they probably have in libya sort of like the u.s. special forces might have done in afghanistan back when we started that mission. that goal for the special forces was to go in, make friends, and learn who good guys and bad guys are, and then give them guidance and training in winning the war, winning the fight. and that's what they do. that's probably pretty close to what's going on. >> we heard jim miklaszewski in his report from the pentagon say that, listen, this would not be
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a well-thought out plan if we. >> well, that's right. and you have to have, you know, you can just start something like this without already having some information about where to go, you know, what targets are, the targets that you need to hit. that's what our government does. that's what intelligence collection is all. it's finding those pieces of critical strategic information and then passing it up the chain so the decisionmakers can decide when and how to act. >> let's me ask you about your visit. you just returned from libya yesterday. what is your impression of what you saw? >> well, the rebels, the freedom fighters democracy supporters, however you classify them, they're making great strides. they could use some support. they are definitely motivated. and the people that -- all of them that i met are motivated. >> they're motivated but richard engel is on the ground, and he's
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reporting they've lost ground. they are somewhat defeated even with the help from the u.s. leading the effort with air strikes. i mean, jamie, in one report richard engel said they fire a rocket in the wrong direction. in some cases, not even capable of loading a gun. last week one of the rebels or freedom fighters, people on twitter would like for us to refer to them as, had a plastic gun. in the end, how do we, meaning the united states, u.n., nato, support and help when they are ragtag, as they repeatedly have been referred to? >> well, what you've got, some military members and a lot of youth, and the youth are the ones that have pushed this forward. and you're right, a lot of them don't have -- they're disorganized. they need some focus. and as we saw, when benghazi nearly fell prior to the no-fly zone coming in to play, what you had was a group stretched out over the entire nearly length of the southern side of the gulf and they could not support the ground that they had claimed.
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and so then you started to see gadhafi come in and take those positions because they did not have proper training, they did no have a cohesive communication stephen hayes that would allow them to maintain the ground that they claimed. now with the air cover they've come along and started to do that again. we're probably going to see some of the same thing take place unless they get proper training and the assistance to hold that ground. but you're starting to see, on the other side, gadhafi's side is starting to crack. with kusa's defection. the only guy closer to moammar gadhafi than musa kusa is abdullah sinucini is next in line. abo puts a nice dent in the gadhafi regime. interesting to see how this plays out. >> we'll have more on musa kusa outrage of those on that pan am flight who believe he should
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face justice for his alleges role in that. thank you, jamie smith. we hope to have you on very soon. >> defense secretary gates is about to testify at another congressional hearing that gets under way in minutes. we'll bring you any major developments from that hearing. hundreds of members of the tea party demanding that republicans refuse to compromise as they try to hammer out a budget to avert a government shutdown-then rallied today on capitol hill with tea party favorite michele bachmann right there saying it was time to get serious on spending cuts. the deadline is april 8th. vice president joe biden says both sides have agreed to $33 billion in cuts and are working out details. but the house speaker, john boehner, denies there's a deal. >> here's the gbottom line, democrats are rooting for a government shutdown. we're listening to the people who sent us here to cut spending so we can grow our economy. there's no agreement on numbers and nothing will be agreed to until everything is agreed to.
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>> joining me now, democratic congressman, vchris van hollen f maryland. thank you so much for joining me. >> good to be with you. >> are you rooting for a government shutdown? >> that's absolute nonsense. what's happening today is you have the tea party driving the train for the house leadership, and the tea party's position is if we don't get things 100% our way, we want you to shut down the government, and that's what you've got going on right now in the house republican caucus. essentially the tea party's taking over the steering wheel and the leadership is sort of in the backseat. we'll have to see how this thurs out. >> what about those member of the tea party who say every time they push, members of your party compromise, if you will, to more cuts. so if they keep push, you're moved from 10 to i believe the number's around $23 billion in cuts. why not keep pushing when you hear democrats say we've given all we can and a week later you provide more cuts or agree to
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more cuts? >> well, tamron, we have made $51 billion out of $100 billion cuts that they've been calling for. in other words, we have cut $51 billion from the president's budget that was submitted. the reality is, if you go the distance that the tea party's demanding, you will slow down the economy and put people out of work. that's not me saying it. the chairman of the federal reserve said you would lose at least 200,000 jobs. i would ask the tea party and the republicans of the house this question -- why should we cut education? why should we cut food safety inspectors? why should we cut cancer research at nih when they won't cut one penny out of the subsidies for the oil ministry, gas prices are going through the roof, making record profits and yet they won't ask for one penny in reduction of taxpayer subsidies for the oil industry, and they want to cut ed case, they wanttan anctan cancer rese
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makes no sense. >> should people at home and those watching prepare for a government shutdown? >> we're certainly doing everything we can to prevent a government shutdown. that would be a very bad thing for the entire country. and that's why it is disturbing to have a group in town saying, don't compromise, don't compromise one inch. we want you to go forward with the cuts in education. we insist that you go forward with the cuts for medical research, even though those will have immediate impact on families and collectively, will have a negative impact on the fragile economic recovery. so they've got to recognize that that's a mistack to say if we don't get our way, we're going to shut down the entire government. that's what we're hearing from the republican side. they're going to try to pass this fig leaf resolution tomorrow. show us by your actions not by your words. >> mitch mcconnell believes that
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the goals of the tea party sound reasonable. they've engaged in debate about spending and debt which is more than he says we can say about the president and many democrats here in congress. we'll see what happens as we move forward. >> if you're serious about the debt, you'd talk about spending, of course, but you also have to look at the revenue side including the giveaways to special interests. >> congressman chris van hollen, appreciate your time today. we are following breaking news in florida right now. severe storms have sparked several reports of tornadoes. here are some of the pictures we received on twitter of the damage in the tampa area. authorities say -- look at that -- seven people were hurt when a tent collapsed near lakeland lender airport. this is a picture of the damage near the saint pete clear water airport, reports of high winds turning over planes in some cases. weather channel's nick walker joins me now from atlanta. so, nick what are you watching now? a lot of activity behind you fo tough two days of severe weather in florida.
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st. peteet r zpetersburg, tampa 300-foot tall radio tower collapsed. in lakeland, we had that hangar damaged at the airport. 60 to 70 mile per hour wind gusts have been clocked and thunderstorms continuing to rumble across central florida. seeing the tampa area just to the south of you right now, some more strong thunderstorms moving through. the area of low pressure that brought yesterday's severe weather into florida now moving to the north, bringing initial rainfall to portions of the northeast and mid-atlantic. cold air gets mixed in with all of this. we've got snow that could be very dense, very heavy, very wet snow. and that coupled with 45 mile per hour wind gusts could cause power damages as we head into april 1st. snow totals, boston, maybe 1 to 3, probably not at all around new york, but a few snowflakes mix with rain, but 6 to 10
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inches of snow in albany, maybe a foot, foot and a half in higher elevations of new england. winter still got its icy grip on us for a little while long. >> no april fools' joke. still ahead, low levels of radiation found in milk in the united states. what officials are saying about the concerns here at home. and former governor arnold schwarzenegger picks his first role since leaving california's state house. what's next for him. plus -- the newest megamillionaires are revealed. do you know any of these people? i bet you western you did. details. funny how nature just knows how to make things that are good for you. new v8 v-fusion + tea. one combined serving of vegetables and fruit with the goodness of green tea and powerful antioxidants. refreshingly good. go to e-trade and tap into the power of revolutionary mobile apps to trade wherever, whenever. life isn't experienced sitting idly by.
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welcome back to "news nation." four "new york times" journalists captured and held captive by moammar gadhafi's
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forces in libya for six days are talking about their horrifying ordeal. in an exclusive interview on the "today" show, the group told how they were pulled from their car along with their libyan driver at a checkpoint near ajdabiya on march 15th. >> i think the clue we were going to be taken hostage came almost too late. lindsay was the first person to see there was a checkpoint a government checkpoint. we fell within that checkpoint in seconds. as soon as we got there, it was clear to soldiers we were journalists and they pilled us out of the car almost immediately. when they did pull us out of the car, that's when a gunfight started one of the most intense i've ever seen. we basically ran for our lives. >> the opposition fighters who -- we just been with moments earlier were firing on the government soldiers who were with us. we -- we -- and various times broke away from them, really, in a hail of gunfire, and ran to cover. but we were, at that point, you know, had two sides against us.
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we were being fires on by opposition but also, you know, had guns placed on us by gadhafi soldiers as well. >> there's a guy pointing his kalashnikov right in your face and another guy firing at his from 100 meter as way and you're trying to judge, do i run and get shot bis thiy this guy or s here and get shot. >> i didn't want to be separated because i was the only woman. for me i wanted to make sure i was always with them. that said we were blind folded most of the time. it was hard to judge whether they would pick me up and take me away if they were also picking them up and taking them away. >> you were sexually lly assau? >> i was groped. >> how often? >> pretty much every time we changed hands to new men. >> why do you think? >> i don't know. i think every time we ended up with a new group of men or we were passed off to people, i think they wanted to scare us and assert their power over us,
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and i think with the men, it was being hit in the back of the head with a rifle butt and with me it was groping. >> the four were freed after turkey negotiated their release with the libyan government. coming up, hillary clinton's approval rating soars to its highest since she became secretary of state. a programming note. this week, next week, on msnbc, a special series called "a stronger america, the black agenda" concludes with a special show sunday april 10th at noon eastern time. hosted by ed shultsd. ♪ what do you see yourself doing after you do retire? client comes in and they have a box. and inside that box is their financial life. people wake up and realize. "i better start doing something." we open up that box. we organize it. and we make decisions. we really are here to help you.
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here in the united states. the epa says the traces offed a ed a yo active iodine found in california. the levels have so low they don't pose a threat to humans? in japan, health ministry is ordering more test after a cow sl slaughtered for beef near the fukushima plant had radiation slightly higher than the limit. new readings show radiation levels are rising at the crippled plant. ground water under one reactor has radiation levels 10,000 times greater than the government health standard. but the company says it does not believe the drinking water is affected. now more on those low levels of radiation found in milk in two separate states. join me now, nbc news chief science and health correspondent, bob bazell. first of all, you did great work in japan covering this story, and is it continuing, and the
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concerns continue in the united states. low levels of radiation found in milk. people are concerns. put it in perspective for us. >> radiation spreads enormously from its -- from the site. it goes around the world. and it disperses. right at the site there are severe problems. right at the site. not even in tokyo or in other parts of japan. but right there, there are tremendous problems with radiation in the water that they're using to cool down the plant. now, as it disperses, it gets less and less, and there -- we have such sophisticated devices for detecting low levels of radiation you get reports of radiation in milk, radiation in the air but the levels are so tiny they don't present any kind of health hazard. they're the same kind of levels or much less than you would get, say, flying in a plane cross-country or living -- people who live in denver get exposed to more radiation than people who live in san francisco or i'll pick another city, because higher elevations you get more natural radiation. that doesn't mean you shouldn't
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live in denver it's a very nice plas. >> but you're saying realistically, we're exposed in other ways every. >> exposed in many other ways. a north carolina environmental official put it very well, if we can hear that sound right now. >> let's play it. >> one of the things that you eat can have radioactive materials, granted, it's low levels, trace amounts, but all of those things contribute to natural background radiation which is a lot higher than what weave seeing from the fallout from the japanese plant. >> what you're saying. >> so we have trace amounts. we have to detect them. the environmental protection agency has to reveal them. they can't just keep it quiet because there would be a scandal about that. but there are levels of radiation that are not hazard to your health. it's hard for people to understand that times but it's very true. >> we'll take your word at it and the environmental protection agency says it's s going on. controversy surrounding a
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wants to charge $1500 a dose when the generic is only $20. scottish authorities want to question libya's foreign minister who defected to britain. musa kusa, the former head of libyan intelligence, suspected of orchestrating the bombing over scotland. 270 people killed including 189 americans. among them, john, and his widow victoria joins us miami. the -president of e families of the pan am 103 lockerbie. thank you for making time for us. you wrote about this issue, i believe on saturday. i have an excerpt of what you said regarding the president. president obama has a unique opportunity to avenge murs of hundreds of american citizens attacked by the gadhafi regime and bring these lead to justice. it should no longer empower
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gadhafi with american money. why people should be paying attention and not say we don't have an american interest in libya. >> absolutely. the gadhafi regime has murdered -- has mass murdered americans for many decades and our country has not once tried to hold gadhafi and his regime accountable. during -- after the indictments were issued for two libyan agents, we allowed gadhafi to choose that these two indicted would be tried under scottish -- in a scottish trial at the hague. and the u.s. government pretty much washed their hands of pursuing justice with al megrahi and fema and going up the ladder to moammar gadhafi. as soon as alma gra hi was convicted in a scottish court, he continued to appeal his conviction saying he was
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innocence until he was ultimately released by the scots on a trumped up -- a trumped up illness that he said he had, that he was going to be dying imminently. >> yes. >> our government has a great responsibility. this was the largest mass murder in this country's history until 9/11 and we sent -- the u.s. sent a very loud message to gadhafi as well as to all of those terrorists out there, that they can't get away with murder, that -- >> victoria, are you hopeful -- let me ask you, are you hopeful with musa kusa now defecting, britain says they're not going to grant immunity but scotland officials want to question him regard what he knows when it comes to the lockerbie bombing. are you obviouslying i imagine i know the answer, hopeful he will provide more details?
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i know you don't want that in exchange for immunity, but he could be the key to learning exactly what happened or more details on what happened? >> well, exactly. he was the intelligence officer when gadhafi was ordering terrorist attacks all over the world. so he was an integral part of it and knows all of the details. we are very concerned what our government is going to do and not really pass the buck to the brits or to the scots in terms of finding justice for murdered americans because we saw that they literally got away scott free after a very prolonged trial. the only libyan officer convicted, al megrahi was let go and got away scott free and our government, or the scott herb or the british government, never went up the food chain. we know in libya nothing happens without gadhafi's seal of approval. so how two libyan officers could have been indicted and one
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convicted for the mass murder of all of these people without gadhafi having a part of it and not pursuing that, this is the best opportunity that president obama in this country has to pursue justice for murdered american victims. >> we certainly appreciate you coming on to today. we'll continue to stay in contact with you, as we learn more details regarding this investigation, now that musa kusa's defected to controversial budget bat that caused massive pro-union protests for a month. governor walker's office says his administration will follow a judge's order to stop trying to enact the law that limits bargaining rights for union workers. in the beginning the administration ignored the order saying it did not apply to them. this morning, the judge revised it to clear up any so-called misunderstandings. joining me by phone, democratic state senator lena taylor. thank you for joining us.
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>> so wonderful to be with you. >> what do you make of the governor and republicans first saying they were going to ignore the judge's order and now backing off? >> the same -- the same kind of reaction i had when they said that they were going to keep our checks when they knew it was against the law, when they said they were going to arrest us when they knew they didn't have authority. you know, it was all talk when they were speaking before. the reason that they're choosing to do what the judge said, she has real authority to sanction, she has real authority to arrest them not to follow the law. they can talk all of the talk if they want. in the end, she's the judge. she has authority. and she gets to make the decisions. >> wisconsin attorney general van hollen was quoted as saying today's order is issues over our objections and we do not believe that it is proper. ultimately, we expect a higher court will need to weigh in on the fundamental issues of constitutional law and judicial power that these proceedings have put to the test.
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so, this is still obviously a battle that is ongoing, senator. what happens next? >> well, the justice presently hearing the original case that came to her, which basically questioned whether or not the gop, whether or not they followed the law when they did, the open records law. the argument is they did not because there was only a two-hour notice and when they did that, they also went over the objection of one of my colleagues, the mine norority l. while he was in the middle of asking a question, they rammed through everything. during this conference committee. that is what the judge is deciding. 20 witnesses that she was going to listen to. she started that hearing process and it's my understanding that she's believing that maybe even by tomorrow that she will be in a position to rule on the
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original issue of whether or not notice was or was not provided. >> senator lena taylor, thank you so much for your time. a former police officer will spend 25 years behind bars. our look at stories around the nation. david warren convicted of shooting 31-year-old henry glover without justification outside a strip mall less than a week after katrina hit. another former officer will spend 17 years in prison for burning glover's body in a car for an attempt to cover up the murder. kelly is waiting for doctors to sign off on a plan to bring gabrielle giffords to his launch. scheduled to lawn inch three weeks. giffords is in rehab in houston, after being shot in the head in january. kelli is hopeful his wife will attend the lawn snooch seven new york state workers from come forward to collect $390 million
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megamillions jackpot. the four men and three women are i.t. workers at state division of housing and community renewal. this morning they talked about the shock of winning so much cash. >> i'm frantic now, i put it in two zip locks bags, in a five gallon bucket of bird feed and hid it in my basement. i didn't know what to do with it. >> he's talking about the ticket, not the money. each winner will receive $19.1 million after taxes. a controversy has erupted over a new drug designed to prevent premature bifrrths. fda recently approved the drug, more than a half million babies born prematurely in the u.s. every year, hope it could spare families heartbreak. nbc news senior investigative correspondent lisa meyers joins
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us live in washington. i saw your report last night. i couldn't believe what high was hearing. >> reporter: yes, tamron, a promising drug to deal with a serious and, as you point out, sometimes heartbreaking national health issue. about 12% of babies in this country are born prematurely, and this drug could help as many as 140,000 pregnant women a year. but there's a big problem. the price. >> reporter: 7-year-old mav is this couple's first child. she's healthy and thriving today. but she was born very prematurely. three weeks in intensive care. she really did struggle? >> she did, yeah. >> reporter: now pregnant again with twins and takes weekly injections of a hormone compound designed to help the babies develop more fully. seven weeks ago, good news, the fda approved a new drug similar to the compound.
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called makena. it specifically reduces the risk of preterm births. then came the price. instead of the $20 she had been paying, the drug would cost $1500 a dose. as much as $30,000 during a pregnancy. >> i was incredibly angry that it could possibly go from $10 to $20 a shot to $1500 and i was in shock. i couldn't believe that was possible. >> reporter: some doctors are outraged, too. >> it's all about money. it's not about the patient. >> reporter: the drug company, kv pharmaceutical, initially said the high price is justified to recover research and development costs. and the company told pharmacies making the cheaper compound that they had to stop. but today, the fda said the pharmacies could still make the compound and the march of dimes and doctors groups are calling on k.v. to substantially lower the price of the drug. >> if the women can't afford it, we have lost a very significant
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opportunity to try and make a dent in the very high rate of prematurity in this country. >> the drug company now says it's heard these concerns, is committed to making the drug affordable, and will take action on pricing by the end of the week. that suggests, tamron, the price of this drug will come down some but we don't yet know whether it will be enough to enable most women to afford it. >> the end of the week, work week, is tomorrow. we'll see if we hear something new from them. thank you, lisa. great report. why the nba is investigating hip-hop star megamogul, he's got a lot of titles but jay-z's his name. visited the kentucky basketball team's locker room. we'll have details in the scoop. first, there's a lot going on today. here are some of the things we thought you should know. controversy, watergate and the nixon library. for nearly four decades the library's watergate exhibit told
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visitors the scandal was a up by hisrils. cricpaed the exhibit for omissions painted a favorable legacy for nixon. now the national archives revamping it with $500,000 makeover. activists will lay out the facts without political judgment. hillary clinton has the highest approval rating since taking office in the obama administration. 66% of americans give the secretary a favorable rating in a new gallup poll. one point below her all-time high rating after the house impeached clinton. arnold schwarzenegger trading his title for governator. combines politics and movies and the cartoon brings it together. it's set to release next year. those are things we thought you should know. oh. ooh. happy birthday todd. it's for a cough... from allergies...
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i'm richard lui in for martin bashir. all of the focus on libya. inside the gulf nation that
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could hold the key to the u.s. battle with al qaeda and a young girlho go ba at her alleged bullies using the power of the word. new details in the story we first brought you yesterday about concerns over test scores at washington, d.c. schools. the district's former chancellor michelle rhee supports an investigation. findings into the unusually high number of wrong answers that were changed to right ones on standardized tests. in a statement, she says, quote if there were isolated instances of this, those should be dealt with properly and we should actually discount those scores in those classrooms. joining me now, an education professor from western michigan university. he was also consulted on that article that was in "usa today." thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me here. >> do you believe there should be an investigation at this point? there are hearings with the school district scheduled to start next week. >> yeah.
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obviously, there should be investigations, early on seeing those very unusual patterns, probably should have warranted an investigation a little bit earlier. >> put this in perspective. when you look at the data, and again, so people understand, when tests are scanned, the scanner picks up eraser marks and you can see when someone changes an answer from a wrong answer to a right answer, and that is calculated in the process when reviewing these standardized tests. >> that's right. and it's important to look at those, but it's also important to look at nose cthose in contet happen the analysts and journalists have done in their systemic look at the data, they started i think last summer when they first contacted me and i know discussing with them the systemically tried to rule out alternative explanations for precipitous jump in test results. first looking at jumps in test results.
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tried to rule out a small number of test takers that had large jumps. they tried to match and get same groups of cohorts they followed over time. systemically, they're looking at this data, trying to rule out any possible alternative explanati explanation. in the end they got hole of the information. looking at this erasure data is helpful and provides a convincing picture of -- that warrants when a school, you know, warns attention and investigation. >> so one seventh grade class at this school focuses on noise, the average 12 wrong to right erasures per student. how that compare to what we see normally? >> this is -- i think it's four or five times higher than what we would see among the test takers in d.c. this is very unusual. i think it was also very high for the school in that year. they were looking at the analysts and the journalists,
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they were looking at patterns over time for same classrooms and schools. and so, you know, these findings are suspicious just because of the irregularities and the pattern. if every year, year in, year out we saw similar patterns and saw a slow and steady growth in achievement, this might be understandable. but again the sudden up and down of their test results coinsiding with a pattern of high rates of eraes sures, wrong to right erasures, raises suspicion. >> gary, thank you for your time. the nba is investigating jay-z and rihanna's risque interview. courtney hazlett. jay-z discovered rihanna, so it's all connects. >> saturday, big news kentucky beating north carolina and getting their spot in the finin
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shortly after ey wi this w caught on video. you can see him high-fiving the? because nba rules prohibit team personnel, and we know jay-z is part owner of the new jersey nets to have any contact with players who are not yet draft eligible. if he had some conversation, totally benign, it's against the rules. >> a fine or something if it turns out to be a violation? >> i'm sure there are probably fines involved and that sort of thing. it looks really bad on paper. and if one of these players ends up with the nets, i don't want to see that happening now. >> rihanna's interview. >> on the cover of "rolling stone." she's trying to embrace the bad girl image. >> edgy. >> maybe that's part of the reason she decided to go details on the stance on the art of sexting. when you're not with the person you want to be intimate with a picture is the next best thing. well, skype is safer but a
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picture lasts a long time. when you're alone, pictures can be very handy. >> that's the clean part. >> it's sending completely the wrong message. we spend so much time and do so many stories on network about the dangers of sexting and how it gets kids and adults into trouble. you know it's going to be made public. you can't complain later the sexting thing if that's your thing, that's your thing. i'm not advocating it, that's not what stood out as the naughty part. she was talking about -- >> the naughty part we couldn't get to. >> she was talking about thing she's likes in bed. >> this is a person whose next interview has to say i'm not trying to be a role model. that's what she set herself up for. at some point i get it not everybody wants to be a famous singer or actor and role model, i get that, but be judicious with what you -- >> talking about going into adult stores. >> detailed. >> for the latest entertainment
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